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Debate: Michigan and Florida delegates in 2008 US elections

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Should delegates from Florida and Michigan be included in the 2008 US elections?

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Background and Context of Debate:

Rules: Do the rules allow for seating delegates after they've been stripped?

Yes

'Michigan and Florida both decided to violate the rules. They were told, 'If you violate the rules, this will be the penalty.' They violated the rules anyway. And so, now, here we are trying to change the rules after the game,"'he said.
But the rules, according to the DNC, gives the states stripped of their delegates the ability to try other options.
The first course of action is for the state parties to appeal to the Convention Credentials Committee, a group that resolves any issues that pop up."


No

  • Florida and Michigan knowingly broke the rules and deserved to be stripped of delegates. They violated the rules. They should pay the consequence.



Democracy: Is seating the delegates necessary in preserving democracy?

Yes

No

  • The Democratic party has the democratic right to enforce its primaries rules. If not, the Democratic Party wouldn't be democratic.


Mail-in re-vote: Does a mail-in re-vote concept make sense?

Yes

  • A mail-in re-vote is a cheap option. Mail-in voting is very simple and cost-effective.
  • A mail-in re-vote is democratically inclusive. The problem with trying to hold another primary or caucus is that it would exclude many of the people that could not participate this time. While people can plan to
  • Howard Dean, DNC Chairman, said on a re-vote. "It's comprehensive. You get to vote if you're in Iraq or in a nursing home. It's not a bad way to do this."[1]
  • Florida Sen. Bill Nelson (D). "Florida Deserves a Revote". March 10, 2008 - "With so much at stake, and the race so close, it's apparent to me that a new election in Florida is a fair way to provide both candidates with another chance to win needed delegates in a state that is certain to be pivotal in November. And there is a practical and affordable way to conduct another election that would be fair to all involved, and should gain the support of state officials. It is this: Hold a revote via a mail-in ballot, and underwrite its cost with Democratic Party funds. I've already discussed the idea with Republican Gov. Charlie Crist and he is supportive."
  • Argument: A Florida and Michigan re-vote could help decide the Democratic nomination It is important that the Democratic nomination be decided in a timely fashion. This is good for the Democratic party, avoids bloody politics, and can enable the country and candidates to "rest" before the general election. A Michigan and Florida re-vote offers a final opportunity for one candidate to win decisively, secure the nomination, and end the Democratic primary election.



No

  • Argument: A mail-in re-vote in Mich and Flor risks encountering balloting issues Michigan Sen. Carl Levin (D) - "it would be very difficult to hold another vote in Michigan and that even a mail-in contest would have problems: 'Not just cost, but the security issue. How do you make sure that hundreds of thousands, perhaps a million or more ballots can be properly counted and that duplicate ballots can be avoided?'"

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